What I would like to know quite frankly is the basics on where these 8 sec kinda stock new 10 is so much faster then the 05 10! literally im seeing 160hp on my 05, alot of dyno numbers are showing 166 to 186 on the new! im getting the diff being in the ecu being rewrote but what is the torque diff? no one ever posted stock numbers on the 05 like the 2011 and 2012, Its more than got me intriqued and thinking bout offing my 14 and my 10 for a new 10! Any info Im more than interested in seeing it!
Believe the hype...the new 10 is a beast!!! Just got a 2011 and i cant wait to set it up...its stock now...just a m4 slip on...163hp stock restricted...there is a green/red wireon the ecu you can ground it and it will unrestrict it...still need the flash for other stuff...ya from my research they are no joke!!!
yeah its just baffling that you got 163, i got 160 on my 05, but no one was posting the high 8's with basic mods, im def interested in a new one might have to test waters on sale of my bikes to get 1!
Im pretty sure guys are making "close" to 200hp on the 2011 zx10 with exhaust,ecu flash and tuned with a power commander running MR12 fuel..The new zx10 is actually quicker than the new zx14 in the right hands!
Thats what im saying you can say stock bike at basically 200hp, man o man I love both my bikes and im glad its still a kawi but it just makes too much sence not to go that route!
dollar for dollar i think they are about the same. you can pick up a 04-05 cheap and mod the hell out of it and still run faster than the new ones. dont get me wrong i love the new 10 but i also like my one off 04.
before i tore mine down it went 5.37 at 131 with my 200lb ass on it. it had head cams and a 40 shot
Dont take it the wrong way but u got a real nice bike...coby head? 40 shot...long arm? Alot done to ur bike...tony ferland went 8.40s on extensions...foot shiftin...on his first pass with bolt on extension's ....no nos...just imagine what the new 10 will do with a coby head and arm and a 40 shot like your set up....and u got magnesium wheels....i dont think they compare
torque similar, 47mm tb/s compared to 43mm, 13.0 comp. verses 12.7, 400 lift int. cam verses 05 358, gen 4 ex. cam larger than 05 int., all tit. valves, larger 29 mm buckets, offset rods for less ring friction, recontoured ports. basically a evolutionized hopped up gen 1. btw my gen 1 runs 8.80 flat all day at 157-158 full street trim on extensions with very basic mods and toney aint ridin it. gen 4 is a bad fast bike, absolutley no disrespect intended. would be my first choice in a new bike, but the 7-8 yr old gen 1 aint no slouch either, especially for the diff. in $$$.
Ive seen u on here...my dude is in smyrna Tennessee... hes got a 07 he just picked up...i seen ur add for sale....very nice bike man!!!!! I dont ride anything but kawi....dirt or street
He has someone by the name of lee rebuilding the motor...he needs a crank,rods and bearings...lee has found 3 cranks but they weren't any good...he said hes gonna buy a new one from kawi
Thats what my dude said..he said lee has some nice bikes...i figured u might know him...sounds like a good dude...he is takin good care of my dude...felt bad for him...bought a bike from some shop down there and it blew up 3 days after he got it..he only had it out twice...
04/05 have different compression and I also am interested to c the final outcome with the new zx the cams and ports are do big and on kill to begin with is there any real room for improvements we all know how easy it is to get to a certain time on a certain bike/set up but the next tenth is a bitch I personally don't think that a fully built 2011 is goin to beat a fully built 04/05 in same conditions with same rider but that's my opinion don't c it happening
Tony rides the hell out if that bike we have same home track and ill tell u this joe smoe isn't goin near those times regardless of weight u add Tony's weight and ability and that time will not be matched period but I do believe stock motor with other mods the newer bike will b faster but if u build both bikes top to bottom and close in weight ill take the 04
cranks from 1st gen 10r are different and only will work in 1st gen motors. 06-10 cranks just like many other parts between 2nd and 3rd gens are interchangable.
Well it wasnt no high 8 sec pass but my 05 zx10r today got me down the track in 9.6438 at 146.15 with a 1.6 60 ft. time, zero mod besides lowered and a strap, stock header with some bs voodoo slash cut pipe,
It's all in the head and throttle bodies guys, Volumetric efficiency--- the more air you can get into an engine at higher rpm's the higher the torque curve moves and that EQUALS more horsepower.
I think instead of gen 4 they should really be called the "big cam motor" because that intake cam is really bigger than the other ones.
There was a 2011 zx 10 at the last Rockingham race at the DME trailor with akra pipe, bazzaz box, reflash, 40 dry shot and about 70 inches with Joey Gladstone riding it that was flying for a stock motor.
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