New all-motor AM/X class at MIRock-Prelim Rules

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I'm seriously considering running the class so my questions are relevant. My only issue would be having to get rid of my grudge frame and add rear brakes. I'm not asking to have rules tailored to my needs.

Why would you have to get rid of your grudge frame

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Cmon guys, if it says what u can't have, you CAN have anything else but those listed as can't.
How long until the rules are final so I can get busy? Any idea?

[TurboR]

Why would you have to get rid of your grudge frame

You don't want to know the answer to that question. I assure you they would DQ the frame

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You don't want to know the answer to that question. I assure you they would DQ the frame

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Billet block can help keep the cost down by not needing a crank to get the motor size you may need cause you can have big bores with billet block and few shops make and sale them(DME,Timhays,MPS and GANN at good price

Hear are some prices that DME are asking for there bullet blocks 1300-1498cc for stock Gen1 crank and 1340-1546cc with a stock Gen2 crank

Block only (bored, Nickelsil plated, diamond honed) $1750

Big block assembly with JE, or CP Pistons. $2500

Big Block assembly with MTC Prolite pistons. $2650

[Big Rob]

I'm seriously considering running the class so my questions are relevant. My only issue would be having to get rid of my grudge frame and add rear brakes. I'm not asking to have rules tailored to my needs.

Man Bruh i get that......the only time there would be a issue is if the tech director deems it unsafe for use.
Why do you think ha added rear brakes to the must have list.......safety.
Just pm him and send him some pics of modifications, done deal.
Good luck.

[show2ime]

those parts are optional...no perf gains big rob...that's why i think they should be allowed..a 1397 stock or cast block is still a 1397

[rcrecovery]

On the busa frames is it ok to take the non used mounting tabs off

[smv busa]

Do you need head light and tail lights?

[Big Rob]

those parts are optional...no perf gains big rob...that's why i think they should be allowed..a 1397 stock or cast block is still a 1397

What parts?
I see what your saying about blocks, that is not what I am talking about.
He has a list of exclusions, all else is wide open at this point.
Unfortunately, blocks r also on that exclusion list.
I do not disagree with you Bruh.....

[scrappy784]

so mr mirock when are you gonna post the rules so people can start building.
its gonna be hard enough to get people to build a bike that is only for this class( seeing as how you cant gaurantee a purse yet), at least give us as much time as possible to put it together.
if you aint racen for fun, theres no reason for any1 other than the shop backed bikes to enter.
why did you race all those years if it wasnt for fun?

[MIRock Technical Staff]

so mr mirock when are you gonna post the rules so people can start building.
its gonna be hard enough to get people to build a bike that is only for this class( seeing as how you cant gaurantee a purse yet), at least give us as much time as possible to put it together.

Well Mr. Scrappy (if that is really your name) you will have to ask Jason that question. But I can tell you that he won't have an answer right now. Probably in the next few weeks, but we still haven't finalized the small handful of tweaks for the current class rulebooks. That will happen before we even begin to look at this class.

if you aint racen for fun, theres no reason for any1 other than the shop backed bikes to enter. If there was some bigger point you were trying to make, you will have to be more specific with me.
why did you race all those years if it wasnt for fun?

I'm not sure the point you are trying to make here. As far as I know, everyone races motorcycles for fun. There is no money to be made by anyone, so they are not doing for profit.

[MIRock Technical Staff]

On the busa frames is it ok to take the non used mounting tabs off

This is not intended to single you out, but all of you are asking too many highly detailed and specific questions at this point in time. I expect the frame rules to be somewhere between the current Pro Street rules and the old Outlaw rules. But that is just my thoughts at this time. Anything beyond that, I can't answer you right now.

We are more interested in getting a general overview of the class, not try and post every single detail of every single rule about everything on the bike in a single Psychobike post. I am more interested in hearing people's opinions about the Pros and Cons of specific rules, such as the frame rules, than I am in trying to give out an entire rule book right now. If I didn't want to hear anyone's opinion and knew every detail already, I would have just posted a rulebook instead of starting this thread.

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This is not intended to single you out, but all of you are asking too many highly detailed and specific questions at this point in time. I expect the frame rules to be somewhere between the current Pro Street rules and the old Outlaw rules. But that is just my thoughts at this time. Anything beyond that, I can't answer you right now.

We are more interested in getting a general overview of the class, not try and post every single detail of every single rule about everything on the bike in a single Psychobike post. I am more interested in hearing people's opinions about the Pros and Cons of specific rules, such as the frame rules, than I am in trying to give out an entire rule book right now. If I didn't want to hear anyone's opinion and knew every detail already, I would have just posted a rulebook instead of starting this thread.

[Exson Jr.]

i say let the busa guys run billet blocks and cranks. to be 1700cc plus their package will have to weight 650lbs. i dont see any advantage in building an engine that big if they have to be that heavy. the only thing that will help is the big riders. and they need all the help they can get in an all motor heads up class. i like the rules just as they are layed out. just wanna know if my standalone is legal so i can figure that one out. but i figure you will let us know by the 1st of the year