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Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    We have been asking about the dumb rule all year, it isn't something that just came up, just trying to figure out how everyone else feels.

    Not everyone else has the means to move up in a class with money like it is. What happens if little Nick looses his ride, John Fornedezes can't move up, JT doesn't find a ride, your loosing people that love to race becuase they have no where to go but Street ET.

    Put yourself in there shoes can you afford building a new bike, you know how hard it is to get sponsors, I do notice most of the ones saying no didn't even race this year, why? is it a money thing?

    Why doesn't Mirock have the same rule? Do they feel that HTP and Keith will keep people from coming to the class?
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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    Quote Originally Posted by popa doc View Post
    I think teasley is a great lil dude.But i cant believe yall guys have the nerve to say change the rules. This rule was made up when the class first started and everyone was aware of it.Now that his time is up i dont think its fair to other racers or Ama to have to change the rules,If thats the case i feel they should take wheelbase from anyone 150 or smaller.Do you see where im going with this.Not bashing but giving my imput,You go start changing rules for one person you got to change them for more!!!!!!!
    What do you mean the nerve to change the rule. They change the rules all the time. They already taking real base from the guys smaller. There are guys well over 200 pounds going faster than the smaller guys. Its not changing the rule for one person it changes it for anyone that wins the championship. So i do not see where you are going with this.
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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle Concepts View Post
    Playthings bike running 7.60's while everybody else was running 7.90-8.10's...you tell me what was gonna happen? What I'm about to say is not intended to take away from anybodies accomplishment in any given class but it makes it hard for racers to come into a sportsman class or series when you let certain people pad their resume with championship after championship...the class will not prosper that way...you will have a few people come on here and say that would want to take on the champ but the truth of the matter is they don't know what they want until they have got in there with the champ and see that it's not as easy as it looks from the sideline...AMA has done a great job at keeping the playing field even and JT has had his time to reign supreme in that class and now it's time for him to move on to bigger and better things!!
    They changed the rules for that class, giving them a shorter wheelbase, or the smaller guys, we went 7.80 and 7.70's. No matter what the class does there will be another JT in the class next year, Look at how fast Chip Ellis is going, you want to talk about a resume, that is one to talk about, how about Rickey Gadson, Keith Thompson, it goes on and on, we are talking about a kid that has just graduated from high school.

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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    This is a real double edged sword. I agree with the rule as to rotate racers but hate the fact that it can bar such a talented rider from competing. How many times should one person be allowed to doninate a class? Why should a rule be made and then changed under such situations? We had a similar turn of events happen to us years ago. We dominated a class and were forced to set out because other racers felt they didn't have a chance of winning if we ran. The owner/promoter gave us a few bucks and all the shakedown passes we wanted not to compete and run the other guys off. I hated it at the time but understood. Send 30 packing mad or 1 packing mad? I also agree with Garron that there are more talented racers that will fill the spot JT is forced out of. But at the same time they too will be faced with the same rule and situation at some point and time. It's a great class all the same. Good luck on a solution.

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    It's real simple guys. There is always going to be a racer and team that rises to the top in any class and any series. Should Nascar tell Jimmie Johnson that he can't race after winning 4 in a row. All the guys in Real Street should be busting there ass all winter to come out and take JT down next year. If JT doesn't ride in the class next year then the new champ never beat the real champ and I would rather try and knock off the man on top then kick him out so I could win. What JT and Coby and have done is caused the entire class to try harder and step up. The class had records falling all year by other riders including JT and riders like Del, KT, and Coby have run there personal best times because someone like JT set the bar higher. So if JT leaves the class I am sure Adams will have another rider that is just as good or better then JT to come and try to win another 2 champion ships in a row. Ask your self this real street guys would you rather ride against JT, Chip, Rickey, or Ryan Schnitz because any of those guys can fill JT's spot if he leaves the class. Its not like if JT goes the Adams Bike will not be in the class and going after records. I say let the man race as he is opening a lot of eyes for this class and making people not just focus on Pro Sreet and looking at Real Street to see how fast a stock hand clutch bike can go any all the other riders are catching up and it was a blast to watch all year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GamesOver View Post
    It's real simple guys. There is always going to be a racer and team that rises to the top in any class and any series. Should Nascar tell Jimmie Johnson that he can't race after winning 4 in a row. All the guys in Real Street should be busting there ass all winter to come out and take JT down next year. If JT doesn't ride in the class next year then the new champ never beat the real champ and I would rather try and knock off the man on top then kick him out so I could win. What JT and Coby and have done is caused the entire class to try harder and step up. The class had records falling all year by other riders including JT and riders like Del, KT, and Coby have run there personal best times because someone like JT set the bar higher. So if JT leaves the class I am sure Adams will have another rider that is just as good or better then JT to come and try to win another 2 champion ships in a row. Ask your self this real street guys would you rather ride against JT, Chip, Rickey, or Ryan Schnitz because any of those guys can fill JT's spot if he leaves the class. Its not like if JT goes the Adams Bike will not be in the class and going after records. I say let the man race as he is opening a lot of eyes for this class and making people not just focus on Pro Sreet and looking at Real Street to see how fast a stock hand clutch bike can go any all the other riders are catching up and it was a blast to watch all year.
    I hear you but everyone knew the rules when they entered the class. I don't like the rule but I hate rules being changed constantly even worse.

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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    Quote Originally Posted by GarronMiller View Post
    They changed the rules for that class, giving them a shorter wheelbase, or the smaller guys, we went 7.80 and 7.70's. No matter what the class does there will be another JT in the class next year, Look at how fast Chip Ellis is going, you want to talk about a resume, that is one to talk about, how about Rickey Gadson, Keith Thompson, it goes on and on, we are talking about a kid that has just graduated from high school.

    At 18 years old how much could you spend on a bike? well heck at 40 years old how much can you send?
    Garron, i see you guys(Adams Performance) position on this...Keeping JT in this class and him winning more championships would bring Coby's business more exposure and maybe more backing from kawasaki...I can't blame you guys for wanting to hold on to that advantage because I would be trying to do the same exact thing...but unfortunately AMA/Dragbike was able to see far enough forward on this type of stuff to keep it from hurting the growth of the class or sport...Look at the big picture, if he stays he has the potential to hurt the growth of that class..If he moves up, he has the potential to help the class he moves to...and like it was stated before, the rule was in place when the class first started so everybody knows that if you win a championship you can defend it and then you have to move on...
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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    Garron i feel ya.But like i said you knew what the rules were before you ran the class.I hate it for JT at the same time,But when people start wanting the rules to change,all it does is push the next person into trying the same thing,Now if you plea and complain,And they change the rule,What do you think is going to happen next year when someone else thinks the rules is not fair for them??? And they never took wheelbase from the smaller guys,They gave the bigger guys more to try and compete.And the big guys are going just as fast huh??How many of them been 7.90s??But what ever!!!Best wishes for what ever yall do...
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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    THEY GAVE THE SMALLER GUYS MORE WHEELBASE IN 09 AND THE BIGGER GUYS MORE WHEELBASE. JUST LET TEASLEY RUN MIROCK RST AND MOVE UP IN AMA EITHER WAY HES STILL GONNA BE KILLER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle Concepts View Post
    Garron, i see you guys(Adams Performance) position on this...Keeping JT in this class and him winning more championships would bring Coby's business more exposure and maybe more backing from kawasaki...I can't blame you guys for wanting to hold on to that advantage because I would be trying to do the same exact thing...but unfortunately AMA/Dragbike was able to see far enough forward on this type of stuff to keep it from hurting the growth of the class or sport...Look at the big picture, if he stays he has the potential to hurt the growth of that class..If he moves up, he has the potential to help the class he moves to...and like it was stated before, the rule was in place when the class first started so everybody knows that if you win a championship you can defend it and then you have to move on...
    That rule will hurt class too
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    Quote Originally Posted by popa doc View Post
    Garron i feel ya.But like i said you knew what the rules were before you ran the class.I hate it for JT at the same time,But when people start wanting the rules to change,all it does is push the next person into trying the same thing,Now if you plea and complain,And they change the rule,What do you think is going to happen next year when someone else thinks the rules is not fair for them??? And they never took wheelbase from the smaller guys,They gave the bigger guys more to try and compete.And the big guys are going just as fast huh??How many of them been 7.90s??But what ever!!!Best wishes for what ever yall do...
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    Let him run in mirock so he can get ran ova!!!
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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    I can't see anything really good coming from it, loosing a rider to another series, having sponsors go with him, that we have been working on for the last year.. We would love to do both series with JT and the bike called digger. But Mirock has there arms wide open for him to come in with sponsors that may even be a class sponsor...... But when your forced to do something you make drastic changes, even if we became a Mirock only competitor in Prostreet and Real Street it sure would save us alot of money with travel, and then maybe we could Build JT a prostreet program

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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    Quote Originally Posted by Profile View Post
    That rule will hurt class too
    I don't see how...the rule was in place before the first bike ever went down the track as a Real Street bike...That class has more people coming out of nowhere because of the way the rules are written...More "average" people can compete...

    Now that I think about it, since superstreet is no longer a class for real street guys to float up to, AMA/Dragbike may reconsider having that rule in the rule book...that is a big jump to go from real street to prostreet...But I'm not AMA and I don't represent their views on rule changes..we'll just have to see about this one as the winter sets in...
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    Default Re: Will the rule be changed in Real Street???

    Quote Originally Posted by ADAMS PERFORMANCE View Post
    I can't see anything really good coming from it, loosing a rider to another series, having sponsors go with him, that we have been working on for the last year.. We would love to do both series with JT and the bike called digger. But Mirock has there arms wide open for him to come in with sponsors that may even be a class sponsor...... But when your forced to do something you make drastic changes, even if we became a Mirock only competitor in Prostreet and Real Street it sure would save us alot of money with travel, and then maybe we could Build JT a prostreet program
    That would be good for Mirock and would hurt AMA. I am a Mirock supporter and i would love to see him in Mirock only if that is the only spot he can race. The rule was in place back when all the motorcycle companies were sponsering riders. Now Rickey is the only one left so the rule should change because sponsers will not run the class. My big question is WITH ALL THE SUPPORT AND ATTENTION ON REAL STREET, WHY NOT MAKE IT A PRO CLASS AND GET RID OF ONE OF THE PRO CLASSES THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD TURN OUT( HINT,HINT) THAT WAY THE RULE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE BECAUSE IT IS A PRO CLASS. Real Street is the hottest class next to Pro street if you look at attendances over the last year. So let the boy RACE.. MIrock sure would like to have JT solely.....
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