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This is a discussion about swingarms within the 1000's section, where you will 1 Liter Bike Talk for.... Suzuki, Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha; IMO the best arm you left out... Hardcore Arm all the way!

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    IMO the best arm you left out...

    Hardcore Arm all the way!
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    Hardcore makes nice arms and great craftmanship. Got to love the low profile underbrace and if I'm not mistaken they are the only ones that offer a 6inch adjustment.
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    I understand that they all are in the business to make money....but I have priced the moly it takes to build an arm....I know they have to pay to have it welded up...but holy cow are they making a killing....I had a local car chassis guy make mine...he has been building cars for as long as I can remember so I trust him...I have sooooo little money in it its not funny...

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    1fasgsxr,

    ive also been pricing it out, can you PM me details on where and what size moly you got? or just post it up, its up to you, i would just like to know because i am on the same page as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1fasgsxr View Post
    I understand that they all are in the business to make money....but I have priced the moly it takes to build an arm....I know they have to pay to have it welded up...but holy cow are they making a killing....I had a local car chassis guy make mine...he has been building cars for as long as I can remember so I trust him...I have sooooo little money in it its not funny...
    My brother is also a metal fabricator and was guessing that we would have roughly 100 in supplies to make a swingarm. but the longest time would be making a jig to built the swingarm in. once jig was setup you could pop serveral out pretty quick.
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    i almost for got about axle slot size...what do most prefer? 5 inch or 6 inch?

    As for the price to build the arms... BUT there is more to it than JUST buying material ....


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpencerCycle.com View Post
    As for the price to build the arms... BUT there is more to it than JUST buying material ....
    Word! This is why i would not personally tackle it.
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    That is why I had a guy that builds drag cars all day long do it for me.....he is a friend of my Uncles....I know I have less than $200 in my arm....Dont remember the name of the place I got the moly from but any Joe can order from them just had to order 10ft I think...they built a jig from my stock arm and went from there..I just wish I would have went longer...used some kind of bronze material for bushing instead of bearings, I was a little worried about this but they work perfect...only used single hole axle adjusters....If I knew how to weld like a champ...I would be making these things for Cheap!!!

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    we have 3 holes adjusters if you want to upgrade..just give me a call...

    $50.00 shipped

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    on a side note...using bushings is the cheap route to go...we do not use them, we sell our arms with bearings installed so there is a reduced amount of liability there....but using bushing in my opinion certainly NOT the best...

    using bushings means the front mount and lower mounts do not have to be machined in a lathe...which cuts down time and cost of manufacturing.

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    HARDCORE arms best around in my opinion all of us ma boys have them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unforgiven View Post
    With McIntosh arms, you saying that the rubber chain guide up front is better and help to save damage to swingarm bearings?
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    Why can't they make a $600 arm? I'm talking out the door. Looking on websites and it says $500 $650 for an arm but then you have to answer all the questions and the total ends up being $800. I would like to see around 72" arm, no under bracing, brass bushings for main bearings, bearings for shock installed, 6" of adjustment, with 1 hole adjuster and standard black powder coat. Obviously anything off a standard $600 arm would be extra like bearings or underbracing or colored powdercoat etc.... So why not a standard $600 TYD swingarm?

    Personally I am ok with a few reliable corners cut like no under bracing on the non rediculousl long arms, and to have brass bushings and only 1 hole adjuster with extended adjusters stuck out the back.

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    one hole or three hole adjuster makes no difference in price for us...it cost the same to machine them for us.

    As for bearings or bushings all our arm have bearings..period! anything less is short changing the customer...you are putting something on your bike that is less in functionality that you are taking off..

    why would you need six inches of adjustment? The longer that slot is ..the weaker the arm gets... our arms have 5 1/2 inches of adjustment any way so would a extra 1/2 inch make or break a deal?

    and by BTW....Brass bushings? No freaking way..if you have some one that has done that take that shit out! The busing material is bronze.. brass i very soft and will not last long in a area that has movement...in other words it will cause a sloppy fittingment and this will increase over time as wear increases
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    Whoops meant bronze. But ok 4" of adjustment or 5, that's fine. Bearings in the arm is when the arm is meant to be traveling a lot and unloaodng and reloading. Drag bikes don't load and unload on a regular basis, theres very little pivoting done. if i still steeet rode my bike then id want bearings. So why not a $600 dollar arm? Assuming bronze bushings and 4" of adjustment.

    I bet if someone came out with a $600 arm, they would take a lot of the sales.

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    there is more movement there than you realize and yes the loading and unloading is more violent than a street bike... AND a free moving suspension is always more consistent for duplicating the replication of the suspension tuning and ET... bearings are the best way. UNLESS you have a wheelie bar bike and or run a strut...then bushings would work since the suspension is fixed.

    enough about bearings...simply put...our arms have bearings I am just asking what the majority of guys would like to see... and I really appreciate your input I have and am taking notes... thank you
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